tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post6336403619122619136..comments2024-01-17T16:15:59.682-05:00Comments on Another gay Jew: Every Step I TakeEly Winklerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14816825030719694334noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post-42738950402748982262011-06-19T05:42:18.804-04:002011-06-19T05:42:18.804-04:00http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/magazine/therapi...http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/magazine/therapists-who-help-people-stay-in-the-closet.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all<br /><br />thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post-48163465045466360772011-06-18T21:25:55.302-04:002011-06-18T21:25:55.302-04:00I can hear the beauty of your commitment to Judais...I can hear the beauty of your commitment to Judaism in your post. Some groups are more difficult to shift than others but there can be joy there too.Bookfiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02841010275726244561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post-15617676186590508672011-06-17T18:52:35.473-04:002011-06-17T18:52:35.473-04:00"I don't get how you could believe in it,..."I don't get how you could believe in it, or how you justify being a part of an explicitly homophobic religion"<br /><br />And that will never change unless individuals like Ely stay on the inside and fight against it. If something is valuable to you but flaws you can either try and fix it or throw it away. Walking a way might be easy but my bet is future generations of gay Jews will thank Ely and many others for not quiting and fighting to change the hearts and minds of our community for the better. <br /><br />-DgratAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post-17233794935896489272011-06-16T13:13:10.832-04:002011-06-16T13:13:10.832-04:00I don't get how you could believe in it, or ho...I don't get how you could believe in it, or how you justify being a part of an explicitly homophobic religion, but I do get that you get something on an emotional level out of being a part of it. I just wonder if you could get that thing somewhere else without all the horrible homophobic garbage. <br /><br />I don't know if you read Andrew Sullivan, who is a great blogger who is both gay and Catholic, but you might be interested in his take on that <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2009/11/on-remaining-catholic-ctd/194073/" rel="nofollow">position</a>.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post-28064838003036419962011-06-15T20:13:07.263-04:002011-06-15T20:13:07.263-04:00wow thank u Ely needed to read that post!!!wow thank u Ely needed to read that post!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post-76601987001336686112011-06-15T17:55:57.999-04:002011-06-15T17:55:57.999-04:00I really admire how you remain so strong in your c...I really admire how you remain so strong in your convictions, even with so much being thrown against you. Your choice to remain Orthodox proves how real it is.<br />But, like with any "stigma" or "group" that doesn't fit the normal standards, they are often looked down upon/rejected. But it's a matter of acceptance that people need to learn and understand and be able to see a person for who he is, who can become.... not for the label that we attach to them, especially when it is wrongly given.<br />Be strong, and be proud. Thank you for renewing my beliefs.Proudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1928387059735958551.post-77190437834919807942011-06-15T17:47:08.725-04:002011-06-15T17:47:08.725-04:00Okay, but what if that bigger picture looks down o...Okay, but what if that bigger picture looks down on who I am, my choices, who I want to be with? What if those steps I take are purposeful, but I know that most of mainstream Orthodoxy thinks that they're the opposite of purposeful? What if my idea of bettering myself doesn't seem to jive with the Torah's view of bettering oneself? <br /><br />I feel like this strong movement of people, this larger nation, probably doesn't want someone like me to be part of their movement. I do believe in God, but believing in Judaism is something else, because it also requires you to believe in the people of God. The majority of which don't want me the way I am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com